this year will be my parents 50th wedding anniversary.
my mum is a jw my father is not.
my husband and i hade been df'd and i have 3 sisters.
Nic said:
All I can suggest is that you sit down with your Mum & Dad over a cup of tea and ask them how THEY would like to celebrate their 50th.
And you said:
I am thinking that it may be worth while paying for my parents to have a romantic dinner somewhere nice just the two of them on their anniversay and then hold an informal family gathering at the weekend.
These are the two thoughts I would go with. to you nugget, it's not an easy situation. x
i realised the other day how weird it is that jw's are taught that the heart and mind are seperate.
by enlarge the mind is satans world, its influence, your questions, doubts and unreliable thinking... all this takes place there, the heart is your seat of motivation, its what interacts with god when he opens it up, its where you talk to him from and where your good and bad motives arise (contradictory) but your heart cant be trusted (contradictory.).
either way, the jw's potray a seperation of heart and mind.
I agree with you 100%. This part especially:
Ok so now we go to the mind. Is your mind split in half? The mind AND a figurative heart? Of course it is not! I think this is a psychological ploy for control. For every doubt, fear, bad feeling, questioning, apostate website that passes through your thought process, they make you treat that as the worldly independant thinking in your "mind". The feeling of comradrie you get singing in an assembly (when you are a sucker for the sales pitch) , the feeling you get from placing a magazine, the love you have for your friends, the other JW's.. the prayers to god, the talks, your answers... these all come from "your heart." Whenever they refer to information as seeds, apostate seeds will 'plant in your mind' but the ministry work plants seeds in peoples 'hearts'.
What utter bullshit. I really dont think this is a small matter. The heart and mind is obviously the same entity, its YOU. They are just associating negative thoughts with the "mind" and positive with the made up "heart". I think this is intentional, a deep psychological tactic. It is also very, very damaging. YOu begin to have an inner dialogue, an inner turmoil. The heart v the mind. I remember it as a JW.
You end up not trusting your own mind, infact you are told to not lean upon your own understanding! But they know this doesnt really add up, so just to make sure and cover all the bases (been as its one entity) they reaffirm the heart is also treacherous... leaving people totally convinced they cant trust themselves, either in mind or heart and therefore hand over their minds to....... the financial discreet shareholders.
It makes me wonder of they have a much better understanding of psychology and thought reform than we give them credit for.
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In the past year there are 5 who have walked away in the local congregation. There have been no baptisms that I know of.
good day to everyone.
after reading and benefiting from the numerous experiences posted here, i thought it would be proper for me to share my story too.
i was born and brought up as an anglican church member.
Every time a bond is created, it is quickly cut off by reasoning such as, “this is God’s organization”, “to where will one go”, “God has always had an organization – be it kingdoms or physical organizations”.
These are exactly the things my husband kept saying when I first spoke to him. These are thought stoppers. It may seem as though what you're saying isn't going in but it is; the key is to ask questions and know when to back off and let her think. I went through this process with my husband and continued attending meetings with him. It took months but in the end the questions combined with what he was seeing and hearing first hand at the hall woke him up; he's out now too.
hello, i am doing some research on 1975 again, and i came across this on a couple different sites:.
are we to assume from this study that the battle of armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of christ will begin by then?
possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man's existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of christ.
This also looks as though it's from the bound volume http://4jehovah.org/images/stories/downloads/jehovahs_witness/history/1975c.pdf
i know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
An experience recently posted that is insightful to your situation.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/222940/1/My-Experience
Yep, this could be you in a couple of years time ^
good day to everyone.
after reading and benefiting from the numerous experiences posted here, i thought it would be proper for me to share my story too.
i was born and brought up as an anglican church member.
Welcome to the site. I'm really sorry to read what you're going through. Your wife will likely be getting all sorts of 'told you so' rebukes from relatives as this is quite common with people who convert for a partner. I'm sending you a PM too, click the little envelope top right ^
i am happy to announce that today marks 22 years of married bliss to the most beautiful girl on earth.
my lovely wife was always being harassed by the local overlords for wearing too much makeup, having her hair too wild, and for not being submissive to them.
when we began dating the overlords pressured me to get her to change.
Awww, congratulations. Wishing you many happy years ahead.
when i was in beffel, i was asked to stock check their collection of magazines, going back to their first uk prints.
they wanted room and so asked me to throw out all but 2 copies of every magazine.
the irony was, this was the loft space, it was huge and empty and they didnt need the room.
Yeah, some crazy stuff right there. I had elderly JW relatives who are now dead who wouldn't have aluminium pans as recently as 10-20 years ago because of what the borg had printed.
I've sent you a PM, by the way.
